Gidday! We're Harry and Sal.

That's Hardwood Harry and Softwood Sal for those of you out there in timberland who hadn't quite twigged! We reckon there must be millions of people around the globe who like us love forests and wood products, who work with timber and support sustainable timber industries.

Note that Harry & Sal are taking a long holiday and won't be answering any more questions after close of business on Friday, 31st March, 2006. The question and answer section of the website will be closed from that date. Wood users within Australia are advised to contact their State timber advisory service for information. To find your local timber advisory service, go to the National Timber Development Program's website at www.timber.org.au, select 'About Us', and then click on the words 'Timber advisory service'. Overseas inquirers will need to contact an industry organisation in their own country.

While you're here, why don't you have a look at our Timber Tips and Projects?

PS. There are hundreds of questions and answers already posted on Timber Talk. If you're looking for information on a particular topic use our handy search engine (to the left).

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 09:35:55 on 29/Nov/1996
To Tom Rueb - your query about types of timber to use in a handrail in the Northern Marianas Islands sent us running for our Atlas. The Northern Marianas appear to be on a similar latitude to Manila, directly north of Papua New Guinea, so we assume it's a tropical or sub-tropical climate, probably with a termite hazard. Under these conditions, you will either have to use a timber of high natural durability, with some supplementary protection, or a pressure treated timber. Without knowing where your timber will come from, it is difficult to advise you on a suitable species. Timbers of relatively high natural durability in the region include balau and chengal from Malaysia, and tallowwood and ironbark from Queensland. In-ground stake tests of balau and chengal in Malaysia showed that they achieved an average service life of 15 years under tropical conditions. Stake tests of tallowwood and ironbark at a tropical site in northern Australia achieved a median life in excess of 20 years. An alternative to using these highly durable timbers is to use timbers of lower durability, pressure treated with a suitable preservative. You really need to find someone who can supply timber to the Marianas Islands and then discuss with the supplier what species and/or treatments are available. Also, not all the sizes you mention may be readily obtainable in all timbers. If you wish to source the timber from Australia, we suggest you contact the Timber Research & Development Advisory Council in Queensland. The phone number from the US is +61 7 3358 1400, fax +61 7 3358 1411. If this doesn't answer your query, feel free to leave another message.

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From: Thomas B. Rueb (tom.rueb@saipan.com ) at 15:25:27 on 28/Nov/1996
November 28, 1996

Gentlemen:

I'm a civil engineer doing a design for a concrete pathway along the beach next to a lagoon on the island of Saipan, Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands. Our client requested a wood railing be installed along 1,100 feet of the pathway.

What species and grade of wood can you recommend for this. Ideally we need something that requires little maintenance. Do you have any prices? Sizes are 4X8, 4X4, 2X6, and 2X2's. Can you recommend any treatment; sealers or finishes? If price is no factor, what is the best. In like manner, if price is a problem, what is the best?

Do you have a list of suppliers.

Any help and recommendations you can provide will be appreciated.

Sincerely Thomas B. Rueb

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:40:20 on 25/Nov/1996
Hi Tracey Grigor! Harry and I were pleased to hear that your first stop on the Internet was the Timber Talk page. There are a number of other sites with information about timber, so leave a message if you would like some addresses. Sometimes it's quicker to go straight to the Internet address than to do a search. You will also find the Timber Talk page is a good way to find out more about the timber industry. Sometimes we provide the information ourselves, and sometimes we refer people to other organisations if it's a complicated answer. The Timber Talk page is also a great way to communicate with people in other countries and you will see we have received messages from the US, Canada, Germany and Alaska. Happy surfing!

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From: Tracey Grigor (dgrigor@ats.com.au ) at 18:47:22 on 23/Nov/1996
Hi Harry and Sal,I am a logging contractors daughter.We just
got the internet and you are the first place we went to.
From Tracey Grigor Woodford Q.l.d.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 15:11:20 on 22/Nov/1996
Welcome, Lisa Redfern, to the Timber Talk page! You were looking for information about timber production in the US. We don't know of any sites on the Internet, but there is a very detailed booklet available from the American Forest & Paper Association which should help. The A.F.& P.A. is located at 1111 19th Street, N.W., Washington D.C. 20036. The 32-page booklet includes the historical background of the U.S. forest system, while tables and graphs show reforestation, growth and harvesting balances. We understand copies are free. Our copy is dated 1995, so you could ask if there is a later one. If you want to order by fax, the number is (202) 463 2708 from within the US. For any Timber Talk browsers in Australia, the fax number would be 0015 1 202 463 2708.

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From: Fiona Marr (fionam@calm.wa.gov.au/ ) at 13:21:32 on 19/Nov/1996
Dear Softwood Sal,
Thanks for your help.
Cheers Fiona

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From: Lisa Redfern (JRED2323f@aol.com ) at 09:29:54 on 19/Nov/1996
I am looking for information about timber production in the United States. If you know of any resources I would greatly appreciate the information.
Please drop me a EMail or Fax @ (408)287-5517

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From: James Campbell (James.Campbell@SWLD01.usace.army.mil ) at 06:32:31 on 15/Nov/1996
Yo, Harry and Sal :) I'm pleased to see more foresters join in, if not for a little peek. Hope they speak up. Great forum you have here. Thanks. Was reading the plight of Tom L (VIPForest@aol.com) and his 150 acre seedling headache. Deer depredation will severely alter regeneration plans if not controlled. Can't eliminate it, but can be improved. The most obvious symptoms are often overlooked. Is the deer herd too large for the native food supply? If so, thinning by harvest is the fastest but most unpopular. But if they aren't utilized, nature will take them out more cruelly through debilitating disease and starvation. If local hunters cannot limit the herd, consider contacting the local Conservation Officer for assistance. Another tool I like is provide plantings of more native species deer prefer, especially grasses and forbs, as well as mast producing trees. One oak tree per acre won't upset timber production enough to warrant leaving them out of planting projects, considering the depredation problem. Selection of seedling species less desired by deer is a tool worth examining. Well, the bad news for Tom is that good forestry promotes wildlife, especially deer. He is victim to enhanced wildlife habitat development where there is probably no companion program of wildlife utilization. This might be likened to a decision to plant a forest of fruit trees bearing unpopular fruit. Why grow the fruit if it isn't eaten? That's silly. But so is putting our wildlife population in a position of growing past the food supply. Whataya think, Harry & Sal, et al.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 16:42:11 on 13/Nov/1996
Hi Fiona from CALM in Western Australia. Your educational package sounds as if it will be very useful for schools. If you decide to deal with paper, the National Pulp Mills Research Program has produced an excellent series of booklets. The first one in the series, titled "From Wood to Pulp", would probably provide the information you need on the various stages of paper-making. Contact CSIRO's Institute of Natural Resources & Environment (INRE) Project Office, P.O. Box 225, Dickson, ACT 2602. If you're still in need of info, send me an e-mail.

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From: Fiona Marr (fionam@calm.wa.gov.au/ ) at 13:23:58 on 13/Nov/1996
Hi there Harry and Sol,
I'm hoping you can help me find some information. I'm working
on an educational package for teachers and students of Year
5 to 7.(eg for 10, 11 and 12 year olds)
I'd like to be able to show the major steps in making
a product: from the raw resource of a tree through to the
finished product. Ideally I'd like to cover a product which
students of this age would use everyday.
eg could be writing or computer paper or could be a student
desk.
It would be excellent if I could find this information in
an illustrated form.

Hope you can help.

Thanks and cheers
Fiona Marr

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From: Mrs. Tracey Edwards (Karcher@isgroup.net ) at 03:11:08 on 13/Nov/1996
Gidday! I am a forestry student in Lake City, Florida. Would love to talk timber with you. I found y'all quite by accident and I will spread the word. BTW, I'm looking for work in North Georgia upon graduation. Perhaps someone can head me in the right direction! Later....Tracey

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From: Al Kingston (inchworm@atcon.com.ca ) at 12:20:45 on 11/Nov/1996
We have invented a short wood harvester will you have a look at it
tell me if you think it would O.K in your. By the way we are looking
for distributers Url is Http://www.atcon.com/~inchworm also there is a
write up in loggeng and sawmill
http://www.forestnet.com/log&saw/sept/process.html
Hope to hear from you
AL Kingston

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From: OB ( ) at 08:44:08 on 11/Nov/1996
Thanks for the info Harry ! Love your work.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:39:12 on 08/Nov/1996
Hello "OB", the owner builder from Newcastle. We're not sure what the initials "RS" indicate, but 8 inch (or 200 mm) western red cedar bevel siding should certainly be available in your area. The 8 inch measurement is generally a nominal size, the the actual size being slightly smaller after machining. The grade descriptions are a bit confusing ~ MacMillan Bloedel has a "Premium Knotty" grade, while Tilling Timber has a Premium Grade (knot-free) and a Tight Knot Grade (knotty). If you continue to have trouble obtaining the material, phone Tillings NSW office on (02) 9609 2055. They assure me they supply Tilling products into Newcastle. Other suppliers may like to leave their contact details too. Regarding an oil finish, we think you will find oils need a fair bit of maintenance. Generally we recommend a lightly pigmented stain, or a clear acrylic. You may like to contact your local timber association for details of what is available in your area, and suitable for your climate.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:19:39 on 08/Nov/1996
Welcome to Timber Talk, to Trina from Arizona. I hope some other people see your message and decide to get in touch. In the meantime, you might like to visit CSIRO's web site - (that stands for Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Research Organisation). CSIRO's web site is at http://www.ffp.csiro.au and if you click on "Research Programs" you will see they currently have a project running on fire behaviour and management in native forests. There is a contact name and e-mail address for further information.

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From: owner builder ( ) at 10:03:06 on 08/Nov/1996
I am in the process of trying to select a cladding for my
timber home. I want to use RS western red bevel siding (8").
Does anybody have any experience in the grades you can get
, somebody told me you had to get "Kiln dried premium knotty".
But the supplies in our Newcastle area just look blank
when I mention this grade.

Any info on the different grades/suppliers and recommendations
would be appreciated.

Also what is a good oil for this type of cladding?

Regards
OB

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From: Trina (trisun@aol.com ) at 04:42:46 on 07/Nov/1996
Hi Harry And Sal!
I am a forester / wildfire hazard consultant in Arizona.
I would love to join the chat! There seem to be fewer and fewer folks with this interest.
Please send E mail if you wish.

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From: Thomas Baars, SUEDEX, Germany (101524.3362@compuserve.com ) at 20:11:55 on 06/Nov/1996
Hi,
I received your adress from Peter Llewellyn of Timber Development of South Australia.
We are importers and exporters of swan timbers, semi finished products and finish
products mainley produced from wood.
We would like to get in touch with your lovely country as I myself have been there
in Dec 94 for holidays. Now I received some inquiries from some importers who would
like to deal european species like beech (hardwood) or finish products like laminated
flooring.
I would be very glad to hear what is possible, as I can assure that we will be very
compeditive especially with the laminated flooring.
This product is already in your market and well accepted. We could offer this product
as well at very compeditive conditions.
If you need more informations about this product I would be very glad to receive
your good news as soon as possible.
Samples, colourful broshures translated into english, is per prompt available. Would you be
interested?
Again, I would be very happy to hear from you.
Our adress: SUEDEX Holzimport GmbH, Koenigsberger Str. 46, 86690 Mertingen, Germany.
Tel: 49-9006-96940, Fax: 49-9006-89085, e-mail: 101524.3362@compuserve.com

With best wishes to everybody there
Thomas Baars

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 09:30:32 on 05/Nov/1996
Hello Ben, and welcome to Timber Talk. I don't think I can help you with a hardwood price index. Your e-mail address tells me that you're located in Australia, so I think your best bet is to contact the local timber organisation in your State. I'm also not certain whether you are looking for log prices, or prices for timber at the wholesale or retail level, or even what sort of hardwood you are interested in. So I think it's best if you have a chat to your local association. If you have any trouble finding it, leave another message, or send me an e-mail.

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From: Ben Morrisson (ontrack@b130.aone.net.au ) at 12:39:40 on 04/Nov/1996
Hi Harry/Sal
i am looking for an online hardwood price index . . . .
any suggestions . . .
Ben

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:36:17 on 29/Oct/1996
Hi Nigel D'Souza! Regarding your query about a new paling fence, any of the timbers you mention should be OK. They are all resistant to wood rot and insect attack, and are commonly used outdoors. Red gum is the hardest of the three and, as the name suggests, has a reddish-brown colour when new. Like the other timbers, it will weather to a grey colour if left uncoated. I don't see why you should avoid cypress pine - if someone has told you to avoid it, presumably they gave a reason. I would be interested to know what it was, and maybe then I could comment further. Cypress pine is inclined to develop surface 'checks' or splits if left uncoated. Also note that it is only the 'heartwood', not the 'sapwood', which is durable. If possible, sapwood should be excluded. If this is not practical and the timber contains both sapwood and heartwood, tests have shown that coating it with a water repellent, followed by a stain, helps to control decay. With regard to treated pine, this is highly resistant to wood rot and insect attack, but again is inclined to 'check' if left exposed to the weather without a coating. You will find that the pine which is re-dried after treatment gives considerably better service and is more dimensionally stable than material which is sold 'wet'. In answer to your question "What does kiln drying do to the wood?", it simply removes excess moisture. Timber used 'green' will shrink slightly in situ, whereas kiln dried or air dried timber is 'pre shrunk'. Regarding whether to use softwood or hardwood, we don't feel either one has any particular advantage, except of course that the denser hardwoods are harder and stronger than softwoods. Let me know if you have any further questions.

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From: Gene Hallum, Poulsbo International, Pouslbo, Washi (poulsboint@silverlink.net ) at 03:43:59 on 29/Oct/1996
We are in the early stages of a project to log timber in Fiji.
We are looking for buyers of either logs or lumber. This is
prime old growth timber. Please let us know if there are
any buyers in your part of the world interested.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:19:19 on 28/Oct/1996
To Jaime Pollard, who left a message last week asking about timber production in Tasmania, past and present - I hope you see this in time for your assignment. All States of Australia are currently assessing their forests to achieve the goals set out in the National Forest Policy Statement. Assessments of Tasmania's forests indicate that approximately 65% of the forest cover which was present pre-1750 (ie. before white settlement) still remains today. The 35% which has been lost includes areas cleared for settlement, farming and agriculture. Properly managed timber production does not result in loss of forest cover, since the forest grows back after logging. Approximately 30% of Tasmania's forest is State-managed for timber production, 30% is privately owned, and the remaining 40% is in various conservation tenures and other Crown land. For background information about forestry in Tasmania, refer to "A History of Forestry in Australia" by L.T. Carron, ISBN 0 08 029874 5. Maybe this is in your library. It only takes you up to the late 1970's, but is excellent background. If you need any brochures, send me an e-mail.

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From: Jaime Pollard (eastco@.geko.net.au ) at 17:36:03 on 24/Oct/1996
I am doing an assignment on Tasmania, and how it is getting used for timber production. I was just wondering if you would be able to send me some information on this, from what is happening now and what has happened in the past. I would appreciate this very much, but if you can't I'll understand.

Thankou

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From: Nigel D'Souza (nigeld@melbpc.org.au ) at 14:46:53 on 24/Oct/1996
Dear Harry and Sal,
Have just found your page and it looks great.

I currently am looking into erecting a pailing fence, (old one blown down by wind) and have gone through the process of obtaining quotes from a number of tradesmen.
Different materials have been provided in the various quotes ..... mainly redgum, treated pine and cypress pine.

For fencing I have been told that cypress should be avoided.

Could you please advise on the pros and cons of the various woods I have mentioned above for fencing?

Also, on a more general note, is it better to use hardwood compared to a softwood for fencing?

Finally, I also want capping on the paling fence. What is the best material for this and should it be kiln dried? (what does kiln drying do to the wood?)

Many thanks in anticipation.

Nigel

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 12:57:39 on 24/Oct/1996
Hello to Brett Wilson in Queensland, who was asking about growing Paulownia in Australia. It's certainly a popular topic! Graham Norris has already given you a contact (see earlier message), but you might also like to get in touch with Forestech Marketing at Mudgeeraba in Queensland, phone (07) 5537 8644, fax (07) 5537 5635.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 12:46:56 on 24/Oct/1996
Nice to hear from you again Sita - I hope the thesis is going well. Sorry to take so long to answer you question, but I had to do some digging to find the answers. Regarding the area of Paulownia planted in Australia, I wasn't able to obtain figures in acres or hectares, but have been advised that 16,000 trees have been planted at Kingaroy by Forestech, and they are starting on another plantation of 400,000 trees in Queensland shortly. Some 100,000 trees have been planted Australia-wide so far, in W.A., S.A., Victoria, Queensland and N.T. Regarding the "Powton Project", all I could find out was that Powton is a name being used for Paulownia by a Victorian promoter. Hope this is some help.

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From: Ralph Belperio (groover@rebel.net.au ) at 10:52:40 on 24/Oct/1996
Dear Harry and Sal,
nice to see you're on the net.
In Tech supplement 3, you speak of treated bottom plates.
I've been using this successfully myself. I think it's also
part of an effective system against termites.
Cheers
R.B

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 16:22:03 on 22/Oct/1996
Hi to Greg Cheetham at North Sydney TAFE, and thanks for your kind remarks about our Home Page. We have taken on board your comments about the do-it-yourself projects - some woodworking tips could be helpful. Regarding information about air and kiln drying, your nearest source of information would be either the Timber Development Association of NSW, phone (02) 9360 3088, or State Forests of NSW, phone (02) 9872 0111. If neither of these can help, send me an e-mail and I'll see what I can do for you. TDA or State Forests should also be able to advise you on the location of timber companies with kilns. A major kiln manufacturer might also be able to tell you where some kilns are located near you, eg. Windosr Kilns Pty. Ltd have an office in NSW.

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From: Graham Norris (c9323193@alinga.newcastle.edu.au ) at 16:16:11 on 22/Oct/1996
Hi Brett Wilson,
There's a fair bit of info out there but beware, my girlfriend is doing a thesis on paulownia in Australia and has found that the commercial growers have some very misleading facts which they are using without any understanding of their unreliability. Be sure to ask any person who gives facts to state their source. There is actually only a small amount of scientific research which has been performed. My girlfriend is the expert on paulownia and she would be happy to let you know of the real facts! Her e-mail number is c9323144@alinga.newcastle.edu.au Good Luck.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 15:52:40 on 22/Oct/1996
G'day George Dixon from New Zealand! You ask whether anyone has thought of linking a GIS (Geographic Information System) with log yield data. I guess the point you're making is that it would be a neat way to work out exactly what the potential timber production of a particular area would be. The answer is "no", I don't know of anyone who has linked GIS with a forestry database. GIS is certainly being used by the Australian National Forest Inventory team, who are engaged in mapping and defining forest locations, areas and distribution. However, I don't think they have attempted to go the extra step to link it to log yield. The National Forest Inventory is being carried out by the Dept. of Primary Industries & Energy, so you might find something about it on their home page at http://www.dpie.gov.au/dpie/home.html although I haven't checked. If there's nothing there, you could phone the Project Manager for the National Forest Inventory on +61 6 272 3428, or fax on +61 6 272 4896.

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From: WILSON CHUA (isawd89@pacific.net.sg ) at 15:09:28 on 22/Oct/1996
HELLO EVERYBODY,

WE ARE A TIMBER TRADING CO DEALING IN BOTH HARD/SOFTWOOD FROM
ALL OVER.WHEN I WAS IN FIJI,I FOUND OUT THAT AUSTRALIAN AND
NEW ZEALANDER IMPORTERS ARE IMPORTING MAVOTA AND KAUVULA.
THE PROBLEM I FACE WAS THAT THIS TIMBER NEED TO BE KILN DRIED
OTHERWISE IT WILL DEVELOPE STAIN.BUT THERE ARE LIMITED KILN
FACILITY IN FIJI.BOTH OF THIS SPECIE ACTUALLY RESEMBLES RAMIN
AND SESENDOK FROM MALAYSIA AND INDONESIA.

BUT WITH THE LIMITED SUPPLIES OF RAMIN AND SESENDOK,WE HAVE
TO FIND OTHER SUBSTITUDE WITH REGULAR SUPPLIES AND REASONABLE.
WE HAVE FOUND SEVERAL SPECIE FROM AFRICA AND SINCE FOUR YEARS
WE HAVE BEEN SUPPLYING THEM TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED,PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE DETAILS.

BEST REGARDS
WILSON CHUA

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From: James Campbell (http://eml01.usace.army.mil/cgi-bin/phs.pl?James C) at 04:12:47 on 22/Oct/1996
I manage bottomland hardwoods for the primary benefit of wildlife habitat on 15,000 acres along the Arkansas River in Arkansas, the stretch between Little Rock and the Mississippi River. The river is contained by levees that, in my opinion, have halted natural succession processes and require management techniques beyond textbook limits. Any observations out there? I'd love to hear other thoughts from managers with experience in similar situations.

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From: Greg Cheetham (greg.cheetham@tafensw.edu.au ) at 10:19:10 on 21/Oct/1996
Sorry, I forgot to sign off. Thanks again an I look forward to further communications with you.

Regards

Greg Cheetham

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From: Greg Cheetham (greg.cheetham@tafensw.edu.au ) at 10:16:07 on 21/Oct/1996
Thanks for this opportunity, its great to find this type of information on the internet at last,particularly home grown product.
I am a TAFE teacher at North Sydney Tafe, teaching shop fitting and detail joinery to trade students.I would like to get any
information you can supply on timber seasoning, air and kiln drying. Can you tell me of any kiln operators in the sydney area who
would be willing to allow trade students to come and view their operations.
From a quick browse around your site I notice that a lot of the information you offer is report based. Goodon you for trying to
spread the true message about forestry in this country and not emotional nonsense based on thin facts
and a lot of fiction.
Now about your projects. They are well written and the instructions and illustrations detailed, but do not assume that people reading them have a
basic knowledge of woodwork joints and techniques. A few basic woodwork tips like sharpening planes and chisels may not go astray.
Remember care and maintenace of tools is a must to achieve a good result. Safe use of portable power tools could also be included as a topic for
discussion or instruction.

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From: Brett Wilson (dbwilson@sqit.qld.edu.au ) at 21:03:58 on 19/Oct/1996
Hi!
Does anyone have information on growing paulonias in Australia, either commercially or otherwise?

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From: George Dixon (kixcom@voyager.co.nz ) at 13:38:23 on 19/Oct/1996
Who knows anything about the systems available - or timber / forestry
companies in general - who have enabled the linkage of log yield by grade and class
back to the forestry resource - a combination of GIS and forestry database?
Any takers?????

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From: sita vasanthakumar (c9323144@alinga.newcastle.edu.au ) at 12:27:55 on 18/Oct/1996
To Peter Llewellyn:
I am wondering how many acres of paulownia are there currently in Australia. Also, do you know anything on the Powton Project and how I can get in contact with them?

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From: Vivienne Laidlaw (bushmill@ansonic.westvic 1 com.au ) at 20:20:33 on 11/Oct/1996
Thank you Sal for mentioning us in dispatches. We are pleased to help anyone interested in Portable sawmilling and also timber conversion and drying. I see your page is coming along quite nicely..congratulations. Will you get to the Melbourne Working with Wood Show this weekend. I was determined to go (it is about 280k) but we were too busy AGAIN two years in a row I have missed it. Thanks also for the information about the German Wood thing...can't remember what it was called now.
We are moving soon and I have to pull up all my baby oak trees and young pawlonias. I love growing trees from seed and milling timber and making rustic furniture and would love to hear from anyone with similar interests. Will look forward to next time. VIV

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:06:32 on 11/Oct/1996
To Vivienne Laidlaw who left a message a few weeks ago - you were asking about advertising on the Internet and we gave you details on the Australian Wood Artisans Promotions page. If you would like to spread your wings into overseas markets, "World Wide Wood" in Germany has a magazine-style presentation and they accept ads from all over the world. Have a look under http://www.wood.de but note that the ads are charged per day.

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From: Vance Chamberlin ( ) at 04:59:03 on 09/Oct/1996
Have "Old Growth" Cypress, Heart Pine,& Cedar for sale.
Custom cut to order. Over 60 growth rings per inch. Recovered from
North Carolina rivers.

Call Vance 910-815-0111 USA

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From: GREG MCCOY (macca@ruralnet.net.au ) at 20:38:44 on 08/Oct/1996
GDAY LADS. BUILDER FROM BROKEN HILL LOOKIN IN.PAGE LOOKS GOOD. KEEP IT UP!

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:28:07 on 08/Oct/1996
Hi Kirk, and thanks for your note about possible jobs in forest resource management. I don't know of any listings on the Internet but it is possible that some of the Australian forestry consultants might know something about the job market. I'll see what I can find out and send you an e-mail. In the meantime, maybe someone else who's looking at this page might have some ideas for Kirk - if so, leave a message.

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From: Kirk J.Webb (kwebb@iastate.edu ) at 04:30:32 on 05/Oct/1996
I am a senior forestry major at Iowa State University and will be graduating in May of 1997. Any information on job listings for private industry in forest resource management on the internet or anyplace else would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Kirk J. Webb

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 09:26:13 on 04/Oct/1996
G'day Duncan! Thanks for your note asking how to get started on planting pines. I think it would be best if you contacted someone with local knowledge of the area. For example the New Zealand Forest Research Institute would be a good starting point. Their postal address is Private Bag 3020, Rotorua, New Zealand, phone 347 5899. Questions like fertilising, rates of return and so on really need to be considered in relation to your own specific site, with a knowledge of local climate. I'm sure the people at FRI will be able to point you in the right direction.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 09:10:08 on 04/Oct/1996
Hello to C.J. Bryan in Alaska! Yes, portable sawmills are used in Australia, although not on a large scale. You might be interested to see Vivienne Laidlaw's message of 15th September below, concerning the portable bandsaw manufactured by her company, Laidlaw Industries. Portable chainsaw mills are also available. If you would like to have details of some more Australian contacts, let me know. In the meantime, I'm sure Vivienne would like to hear from you.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:39:35 on 03/Oct/1996
Nice to get a message all the way from Oregon, Shawn. Timber has advantages over most common building materials, since it uses less "Process Energy" and is renewable. Different research people have come up with slightly different answers, depending on whether they are looking at softwoods or hardwoods, and depending on how much the timber is processed. Obviously the more processes that are carried out, the more energy is used. We usually quote figures from an Australian Government report called the Forest & Timber Inquiry Final Report. This report states that the process energy for timber ranges from 1472 to 1800 kWh/tonne, while for plastic it ranges from 11388 to 45000 kWh/tonne.

Source: Forest & Timber Inquiry, Final Report, vol. 2B, Resource Assessment Commission, Australian Government Publishing Service, March 1992, p. R20

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From: C. J. Bryan (cjbryan@alaska.net ) at 08:25:14 on 03/Oct/1996
10-2-96

Hi,

Just a note to say "hi", instead of "g'day". I'm a consulting forester working out of Anchorage, Alaska, USA. I was just browsing the Internet looking for information on small portable sawmills for a talk that I'm going to give to a group of Alaska natives on the west coast of Alaska.
I saw your webpage and just thought I would touch base. I work mainly with Alaska native groups. They own individual tracts of land throughout Alaska in blocks up to 160 acres (you can convert that to hectares). Do you use portable sawmills in Australia? I'm sure you do. I was just curious
I would be interested in hearing what kind of equipment you use.

Thanks,

C. J. Bryan

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From: Duncan Harris (dwharri@ihug.co.nz ) at 18:40:51 on 02/Oct/1996
Dear Timber Talk,

I am considering, along with a few mates,purchasing 40 acres
of land in North Auckland, NZ and planting radiata pines.

Can you or anyone tell me how to get started. ie.information
on planting, maintenance, returns, overheads , etc.

Any advice on pitfalls to watch for would be really appreciated

Thank you in advance for your help.

Cheers,
Duncan Harris

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