Gidday! We're Harry and Sal.

That's Hardwood Harry and Softwood Sal for those of you out there in timberland who hadn't quite twigged! We reckon there must be millions of people around the globe who like us love forests and wood products, who work with timber and support sustainable timber industries.

Note that Harry & Sal are taking a long holiday and won't be answering any more questions after close of business on Friday, 31st March, 2006. The question and answer section of the website will be closed from that date. Wood users within Australia are advised to contact their State timber advisory service for information. To find your local timber advisory service, go to the National Timber Development Program's website at www.timber.org.au, select 'About Us', and then click on the words 'Timber advisory service'. Overseas inquirers will need to contact an industry organisation in their own country.

While you're here, why don't you have a look at our Timber Tips and Projects?

PS. There are hundreds of questions and answers already posted on Timber Talk. If you're looking for information on a particular topic use our handy search engine (to the left).

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From: Shawn (cpltyson@primenet.com ) at 13:53:06 on 01/Oct/1996
As a resident of the great state of Oregon and fellow timber lover, I must say I love you site... I am looking of any info. related to the benifits of wood products over others (such as plastic) for an English paper. Can you help me?
Any info. related to the benefits of lumber will help. I am also going to try the address given by Softwood Sal on 27/Sep/96. Hope to hear from you soon!

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.au ) at 10:13:55 on 27/Sep/1996
G'day Chris! Thanks for your message about harvesting, reforestation and site treatment. I think your best source of information is going to be the TINDER Web Site (Timber Information Network: Development, Education & Research. The URL contact number is http://www.chem.csiro.au/timber.htm. You can make personal contact with Greg Foliente via e-mail on greg.foliente@dbce.csiro.au or Alastair Woodard on woodard@ozemail.com.au. Another possible source of information is Primary Industries South Australia's Web site at http://www.pi.sa.gov.au. I hope these contact are some help. If you can't get the info you need, let me know and I'll see if I can dig deeper for you.

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From: Chris Smith (csmith@agt.net ) at 14:09:38 on 26/Sep/1996
G'Day eh!!

I am from Alberta Canada and am in the Woodlands department of
a sawmill. I am responsible for the harvest of 130,000 cubic
meters of timber a year. I was wondering if you could give
me some addresses (email) of some of the timber companies Down
Under. I would be interested in talking about harvesting,
reforestation, site treatments ect. Any information would
be appreciated.

Thankyou very much

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:19:43 on 23/Sep/1996
Bill, thanks for your message about plans for a cubby house for your two daughters. It was a reminder that Sal and I have to get busy and put the playhouse online in our Timber Tips. In the meantime, if the kids just can't wait, send a stamped self-addressed envelope to the Timber Development Association, 113 Anzac Highway, Ashford, S.A. 5035 and they will post you some plans by snail mail.

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From: Bill Brennan (brennanb@cmpsf.com.au ) at 14:05:11 on 23/Sep/1996
I have 2 daughters aged 4 and 2 and am looking forward
to getting your cubby house plans. Hope to see them soon.
Regards, Bill B.

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From: Don Kass (wow1@together.net ) at 00:11:09 on 21/Sep/1996
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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:28:34 on 20/Sep/1996
Nice to hear from you again Sita! The statistics we normally use come from a quarterly report published by the Australian Bureau of Agricultural & Resource Economics (ABARE). The report is called "Australian Forestry Statistics" and can be obtained from ABARE, phone (02) 6272 2000. ABARE is also on the Internet at http://www.abare.gov.au. Regarding technical information about meranti, send your address or fax number by e-mail and I'll send a CSIRO data sheet. Hope this helps with your thesis.

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From: Sita Vasanthakumar (c9323144@alinga.newcastle.edu.au ) at 16:27:19 on 20/Sep/1996
Thank you for your help previously with information on Paulownia for my thesis. I am wondering where I can get statistics about the types of timbers imported into Australia, and also some detailed information about meranti.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:34:52 on 19/Sep/1996
Hi Alan & Jenny! Regarding a light-coloured timber for the floors in your new home, different timbers are available in different parts of the country and it's generally best to talk to your local timber association. They will be able to tell you what the local merchants have in stock. In your case the organisation to contact is the Timber Research & Development Advisory Council of Queensland (TRADAC). Their technical service can be contacted on (07) 3852 1344. TRADAC is currently at 5 Dunlop Street, Newstead, but shortly to move to 500 Brunswick Street, Fortitude Valley. Suitable timbers would include Victorian ash and ramin, but you will need to (a) find out if they are locally available and (b) see a sample to make sure you are happy with the colour.

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From: Alan Smith (smiffs@mailbox.uq.oz.au ) at 22:09:37 on 18/Sep/1996
G'day,

My wife Jenny and I are in house-building mode, (with an architect and builder, not as owner-builders). Jenny is keen to get as light coloured a timber on the floor as possible. Obviously it needs to be pretty durable to be on the floor. Any suggestions? (We are building in Brisbane).

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 09:19:27 on 17/Sep/1996
Hello Vivienne, and thank you for your note about the "Bushmill" portable bandsaw. I guess Alisa, who left a message the other day might be interested to hear about it. Regarding advertising on the Internet, you might have a look at the Australian Wood Artisans Promotions page at http://www.woodart.com.au. If that's the kind of thing you're looking for, send Ainslie Pyne an e-mail on woodart@woodart.com.au. This might also be a good place to promote your Cupressus macrocarpa, as a lot of craft people look at the Wood Artisans' page.

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From: Vivienne Laidlaw (bushmill@westvic1.ansonic.com.au ) at 21:16:00 on 15/Sep/1996
Please note email address changed to bushmill@westvic1. ansonic. com.au

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From: vivienne laidlaw (http://www.ansonic.com.au ) at 19:53:40 on 15/Sep/1996
We are milling a lot of Cypress Macrocarpa, but are finding that people know little about it and also that they constantly confuse it with Cypress Pine. Currently it is being used for specialist furniture and outdoor timbers but it appears there is little known about it other uses..Can you help.
One more thing..we make the only portable bandsaw in Australia and with the clsoing down of forests all over are finding them hard to sell unless we run around all over Australia, do you know where the best place would be on the internet to advertise this kind of product. We have Four models of portable bandsaw up to 52" (1300mm) wide cut and two models of swivel circular saw that can run in tandem.. All are safe, strong and one man operated. Will look forward to any impute you may be able to give. Vivienne. Laidlaw Laidlaw Ind. (manufacturers of "Bushmill" and other items.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:39:41 on 13/Sep/1996
Hi Alisa! Sounds as if you've found a nice spot to build. Spotted gum makes an excellent construction timber and it's quite practical for you to mill your own timber if you have the equipment, or if you can get the logs to a sawmill. It doesn't have to be dried if you are only using it in structural members, as long as you make some allowance for shrinkage. Of course, if you want to use it for joinery it must be dried first. The durability of spotted gum outdoors varies a bit, depending where it comes from. However, generally it stands up to the weather well. One tip ~ avoid the sapwood (lighter coloured, outer wood) as it is subject to Lyctus borer attack. If you would like more info about air drying, send a stamped self-addressed envelope to the Timber Development Association of S.A., 113 Anzac Highway, Ashford 5035.

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From: Alisa (leesky@nectar.com.au ) at 14:19:05 on 13/Sep/1996
Hi there. My husband and I have just bought a small property
of 7.5 acres. The housesite is populated by very large
spotted gums. We have read that the spotted gum makes a good
construction timber and would like to use the trees we have
to clear, in the construction of our home. What we would
like is some advice on how the timber should be treated
in order for it to be at it's best. Does it need to be air
dried, can it be left exposed to weather, how long does it
need to be left before use and so on. If you can direct me
to a internet site or a book which might be helpful, I would
be most grateful. Thanks for your help. Cheers! Alisa

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 14:20:17 on 10/Sep/1996
CORRECTION ~ The address for the European Tropical Forestry Research Network is http://www.zadi.de/etfrn/etfrnhom.htm NOT etfrm as stated earlier today. Apologies to any net surfers who got dumped by the wrong number!

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:26:52 on 10/Sep/1996
Hi Cindy! Thanks for your note about Melaleuca. It's more commonly known as tea-tree, a medium-sized harwood which grows in coastal areas of New South Wales, Queensland and the Northern Territory. It's not of much use a sawmill timber because of its numerous branches. However, the leaves and twigs contain a special oil which is used in soaps and perfumes. Tea-tree is also popular in some parts of Australia as a fencing material. Get back to Hardwood Harry if you need more detailed information.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:18:01 on 10/Sep/1996
To Matthew & Tammy ~ In answer to your NINE messages about the ecosystem of a rainforest, HARDWOOD HARRY AND SOFTWOOD SAL DON'T WORK ALL NIGHT YOU KNOW! If you're going to leave a message at night you might have to wait till the next day to get an answer! Hardwood Harry suggests you have a look at the Malaysian Timber Council's Internet pages on http://www.mtc.com.my because there's a lot of good information there. You could also try the European Tropical Forestry Research Network on http://www.zadi.de/etfm/etfmhom.htm to see what they've got. Hope this is not too late for your project. If you're still in trouble, send an e-mail to Hardwood Harry on llewelyn@ozemail.com.au.

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From: Matthew Herd ( ) at 19:42:30 on 09/Sep/1996
HI Sal,HI Harry, I need some information on how the RAINFORESTS ECOSYSTEM works.

THANKS!!!

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From: Matthew Herd ( ) at 19:24:01 on 09/Sep/1996
Hi Harry, Hi Sal I just wanted to now if you could tell me how the forest system operates, I need the information for a High School assighnment.
THANKS!!!

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From: cindy (cindyh@scs.unr.edu ) at 13:29:57 on 07/Sep/1996
Neat pages! I'm trying to find information on Malaluca. Any help?
Please email.
cindyh@scs.unr.edu

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 16:27:37 on 05/Sep/1996
Hi Luke. You asked whether NSW mills were being forced to value add their products. There's clearly going to be a move towards softwood framing in the long term, and it makes sense for hardwood producers to value add, in order to open up new and different markets for their products. In Victoria, this process has been going on for some time, and since 1987, 118 kilns have been installed, increasing the output of kiln-dried timber from 10% in 1988 to 40% today. Of course, there have to be markets for the lower grade material and again the Victorians have addressed this by promoting their "Natural Feature Grade" material to furniture makers. The Timber Promotion Council (TPC) can provide more information about this if you phone (03) 9662 3222. To answer your specific query about mills losing their licences if they don't value add, I suggest you take it up with Ron Wilson who is in charge of the Marketing Division of State Forests of NSW, phone (02) 9980 4100. Hope this helps you to get to the bottom of it!

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 17:21:23 on 02/Sep/1996
Hello to Tom Gower! I can certainly help you with information about Australian timbers, but if you are looking for info about New Zealand timbers you might do better to contact a local organisation. A good starting point would be NZ Forest Research Institute, Private Bag 3020, Rotorua. If it's Australian timbers you're interested in, send an email to Hardwood Harry and I'll arrange for some brochures to be posted.

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From: Tom Gower (Sgower@es.co.nz ) at 08:13:40 on 01/Sep/1996
I'd like to get hold of some basic timber information like common timber names, properties and size for school.

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From: Luke ( ) at 16:30:57 on 30/Aug/1996
Can someone tell me the reasoning behind NSW (maybe all states) hardwood mills being forced to value add their product. From what I am told if they don't comply their liscence will not be renewed.
Thanks.

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From: Hardwood Harry (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 13:58:07 on 30/Aug/1996
To the anonymous inquirer about Far East timber prices, the International Tropical Timber Organization (ITTO) publishes a fortnightly report called "Tropical Timber Market Information". It concentrates on the near eastern countries, but includes details from Europe and the US. The issue for 1-15 July contained a special report on market prices in China. ITTO's e-mail is mjadams@itto.or.jp or you can e-mail me if you want a copy of this report.

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From: ( ) at 05:02:44 on 30/Aug/1996
Are there any on-line publications available about the Russian far east timber industry, far east timber prices FOB, etc?

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From: Luke (bond@healey.com.au ) at 21:38:07 on 29/Aug/1996
To Owner Builder,
I am a timber broker based in Sydney who has some access to cypress mills.
If you wish, mail me quantities of what cypress you require and I will be happy to forward a quotation to you.

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From: Softwood Sal (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 14:07:09 on 29/Aug/1996
To Jackie Heilbronn ~ For information on forest types in Queensland, contact either the Timber Research & Development Advisory Council (TRADAC) on (07) 3852 1344, or the Queensland Timber Board. TRADAC's advisory service should be able to give you the name of a person to speak to at the Queensland Timber Board if they can't help you themselves. If you just want general information about forests, send me an email, but it sounds as if your project is only about Queensland. Hope you get really good marks!

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From: Jackie Heilbronn (ipscents@gil.com.au ) at 12:41:40 on 29/Aug/1996
I am doing a project for school and I am in need for some imformation
on forest types in Queensland. Would you know anything which would
help me. (I am in grade 7).

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From: Jackie Heilbronn (ipscents@gil.com.au ) at 12:37:30 on 29/Aug/1996
would you know anything about forest types in Queensland

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 10:12:02 on 28/Aug/1996
To Sita Vasanthakumar ~ Sorry the Paulownia contacts were not very helpful. I think perhaps they are more involved in growing the timber and as yet they probably don't have any data on the properties of the wood. We only have limited information and can't say yet what the structural potential of the timber is likely to be. We understand that in Asia it is more commonly used as a joinery and furniture timber, rather than a structural timber. However, it may also have structural potential. If you would like to phone our Timber Information Line on 1900 28 2000 we can discuss this with you, or leave your fax number at our E-mail address so we can send you some info.

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 10:01:34 on 28/Aug/1996
Hi Danny Nouh ~ Regarding your final year thesis on timber engineering, your local timber organisation should be able to help. In your State it's the TDA of NSW, P.O. Box 50, Surry Hills 2010. Phone Andrew Dunn, Manager of Timber Engineering Services on 9360 3088. Andrew has also been working with the Sydney 2000 Olympics committee and can fill you in on the potential use of timber for Games structures. I will also post you some material today.

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From: Sita Vasanthakumar (c9323144@alinga.newcastle.edu.au ) at 14:07:08 on 27/Aug/1996
I am currently researching Paulownia, and am looking for some technical data on Paulownia. I would mostly like information on where Paulownia can be used as a building material, and to what extent. eg. can it be used as structural framing? If anybody has any information or references for this topic, it would be much appreciated. Peter Llewellyn, thankyou for the contact, although I rang them, and they were not very helpful at all.

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From: owner (builder ) at 07:37:07 on 27/Aug/1996
Im looking for a mill that can supply cypress at good
cost in the newcastle area. ALso waht is a good oil to
use to stain and preserve cypress ?

Is western red better as a cladding than cypress ?

Anybody with experience in this area ?

Thanks

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From: Danny Nouh ( ) at 10:08:29 on 22/Aug/1996
Hi, I am a Civil Engineering Student from UNSW working on my final year thesis titled
"The Callenges of Timber Engineering in Australia". I was wondering if you have any suggestions
or any information with regards to the future use of Timber in Australia. Possible topics include:
New materials, Durability and Preservative treatments, Forests, Timber Acceptance as a structurally
viable material, Sydney 2000 games (timber engineering use), Risk Management and Quality Control.
I would appreciate any help as soon as possible. My Mailing address is 162 Liverpool Road, Enfield, NSW.
Thankyou for your time.

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 10:08:10 on 22/Aug/1996
Hello to David Howe! A while back you asked about equipment and processes to creosote fence posts for your farm. Way back in 1972, the NSW Forestry Commission's Wood Technology Division prepared a leaflet called "Preservation of Natural Round Fence Posts". State Forests of New South Wales may still have copies, or they might have something newer. If not, you're most welcome to send a stamped self-addressed envelope to TDA of SA at 113 Anzac Highway, Ashford, S.A. 5035 and we'll post you a copy.

Kind regards,

PETER LLEWELLYN
Timber Development Association of South Australia

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From: f.i.s (bombhs@acr.net.au ) at 13:53:35 on 21/Aug/1996
what effect does snow have on pine plantations.

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 11:36:17 on 21/Aug/1996
Hi Dave! You were asking about growing eucalypts. A recent CSIRO report titled "Trees for south-eastern Australia" might be useful. It is mentioned in the Forestry & Forest Products newsletter "On Wood" (Winter 1996 issue) and can be obtained from the Rural Industries Research & Development Corporation, 14 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT 2600, phone (06) 272 4539. You can also contact Tim Vercoe, one of the authors of the report, on email tim.vercoe@cbr.for.csiro.au.
Regards,
PETER LLEWELLYN
Timber Development Association of S.A.

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 09:34:26 on 20/Aug/1996
To Scott Dennis: I'm not sure what you're looking for in relation to overseas ventures, but it sounds as if you would like to contact someone with interests in Russia. Maybe Russian Timber Imports Pty. Ltd. would be worth contacting. Don't think they have an E-mail address, but you could write to Peter Drew at Alfred Street, Alberton, South Australia 5014, Australia. The phone number is 8240 1100. If you are phoning from outside Australia, put 618 in front of the number.

Regards,
PETER LLEWELLYN
Timber Development Association of S.A.

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 12:41:23 on 19/Aug/1996
Hi John Herman! Your question was about Glochinia Fernandi. I think it is actually GLOCHIDION FERDINANDI, common name "buttonwood". I don't have any info about the qualities of the timber, but if you quote the correct botanical name, someone at Queensland Forest Service might be able to help, as it looks as if it grows in that State. TRADAC might also be able to put you in touch with someone if you phone (07) 3852 1344.

Regards,
PETER LLEWELLYN
Timber Development Association of S.A.

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 12:28:07 on 19/Aug/1996
Hi Doug! You were asking how to find the board footage in a given tree. I think what you are looking for is "Hoppus Meaurement". This is a method used to measure round logs, also known as the "quarter girth system". The formula is (¼ girth)² in inches x length in feet ÷ 12 = measurement in superficial ('super') feet. This formula allows about 27% for waste in conversion.

Sincerely,
PETER LLEWELLYN
Timber Development Association of S.A.

PS This info comes from "Australian Timber Handbook" by N.K. Wallis.

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From: dave (webb@xtra.co.nz ) at 12:15:44 on 19/Aug/1996
I'm looking for information on specific eucalypt timbers,
we are growing a variety of well known timber types but not
all suit our growing conditions(esp clay non-draining soil)
any publications or net sources you know containing spec's
especially for timber use,thanks

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From: Peter Llewellyn, Timber Development Association of (llewelyn@ozemail.com.au ) at 12:14:00 on 19/Aug/1996
Hello Sita Vasanthakumar! In answer to your query about Paulownia, a company called Forestech Limited can provide you with information about the planting and management of Paulownia. Contact Murray Bailey at 2 Mark Way, Mudgeeraba, Queensland 4213, Australia. You can fax on +617 5530 7844. Hope this is a help.

Kind regards,
PETER LLEWELLYN
Timber Development Association of S.A.

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From: Sal ( ) at 21:33:16 on 18/Aug/1996
Hello Armand

I suggest that you contact the Forest Industry Federation (Western Australia) for further information.
Western Australia is the "home" of Jarrah timber. The contact number is
61 9 322 2088. The Address is PO Box 254 West Perth, Western Australia Australia 6872.

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From: Sean (ryanr@seanet.com ) at 04:51:00 on 18/Aug/1996
I am trying to figure out which search engines or directories
to register with to improve the number of hits on
http://www.seanet.com/~ryanr

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From: Armand Vezina (104203.214@compuserve.com ) at 03:34:19 on 17/Aug/1996
I'm a woodworker in the USA and would like to start a
buisiness opportunity using Jarrah. If I understand things
correctly, this wood is very "weather proof" and is
frequently used in Australia in deck construction. I am
trying to find the outfit that imports this wood into the
USA or Canada (preferably western USA or CDA).Can you help
me out?

Armand Vezina

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From: SITA VASANTHAKUMAR (c9323144@alinga.newcastle.edu.au ) at 16:07:19 on 14/Aug/1996
I have recently found the timber i was looking for. It is called Paulownia. If anybody has some good references on the subject, can you please email me.

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From: Mark Crance (MCrance@GNN.com ) at 11:40:47 on 14/Aug/1996
If you know of any loggers that are looking for help to aquire stumpage here in the N.E. US please pass along our name and address.We have a venture capital company that does just that and our name is SUMMERHILL CAPITAL PARTNERS.Thanks

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From: Bob (bobndig@execpc.com ) at 06:24:10 on 09/Aug/1996
I'm looking for photos of paper mills and sawmills. I'm building models of these types of
structures and any photos of the grounds would help.

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