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From: David Huff (goal@scrtc.com) at 11:02:31 on 09/Mar/2004
I would like to know how lumber is cured, seasoned, graded and sized.

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 11:18:28 on 09/Mar/2004
Hi Kim. Jarrah skirtings of 80 mm shouldn't be too hard to obtain. Have you tried Bunnings? If no-one locally can supply them, a timber merchant in Adelaide who could help is Otto & Co., phone (08) 8362 3522.

From: Kim Reinke (reinkekim@hotmail.com) at 10:38:56 on 09/Mar/2004
Hi,
We live in Darwin in the NT and have put jarrah skirting boards throughout half of our house. We have trouble buying approx. 80mm skirting to finish it. Do you know anywhere in Aust. where we could buy this from?
Cheers, Kim.

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 11:01:58 on 09/Mar/2004
Hi Jabin. Cutting down trees is not necessarily a good thing. The timber industry is only in favour of responsible logging. No-one benefits in the long term if timber production is not properly managed. So the forests have to be logged sustainably. It might help you to understand what this means if you compare forest management with the management of other natural resources such as fisheries. The fishing industry is regulated so that only as many fish are caught as can be replaced by breeding. In the same way, only as many trees are harvested as can be replaced by regrowth. Because large areas of forest are already in national parks and World Heritage Conservation Areas, and because the areas available for logging are managed sustainably, we don't see any need to extend national parks. There is a lot of information about the sustainability of timber production in Australia on the Agriculture, Fisheries & Forestry website at www.affa.gov.au - just click on this hot link, and select "Forestry" from the menu headed "select by subject area". Then go to the General Folder and you will find the topic "Sustainable Forest Management in Australia". There may be other topics there which are relevant to your research.

From: Jabin Rai (iblink281@hotmail.com) at 17:51:53 on 08/Mar/2004
Why is cutting down trees a good thing?
I am stuck on this topic? could u help me out?

Thanks,
Jabin

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 10:33:12 on 09/Mar/2004
Hello Brendan. Thanks for the info about your new range of stain products. We will post your message on our website so any interested parties can contact you.

From: Brendan Luczak (ducoat@iprimus.com.au) at 17:39:57 on 08/Mar/2004
Hello Everyone
Just to let everyone know that I am about to manufacture a new range of exterior timber stains for decking, weatherboards, Pergolas and garden furniture. All products are formulated on natural wood oils with quick drying and low odour properties. I plan too distribute the product range throughout Australia and abroad, so If anyone is interested in joining me as an associate distributor or partner please let me know as I need technical product advisers and business development people. You can contact me on 03 99310 979 or email, ducoat@iprimus.com.au

Best Regards

Brendan Luczak
Managing Director

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 16:26:47 on 08/Mar/2004
Hi Xavier. I'm not sure where you are based, but I can only give you data from Australian references. We regard the meranti timbers as low durability species and not suitable for in-ground use. Outdoors above-ground, dark-red meranti gives better service than light-red. Regarding pine poles for timber houses, the Australian Standard calls for treatment to Hazard Level 5. This corresponds to a retention of 14.8 kg/m³ of CCA.

From: xavier (xaviersouri@hotmail.com) at 01:01:25 on 07/Mar/2004
Hi harry,
Would appreciate if you can mail me the details regarding durability of Red meranti,light red meranti & yellow meranti.
Further,i would like to know the minimum recomended retention of cca preservative treatment(pressure) required (kg/m3) for radiata pine poles of timber houses,which are in direct contact with ground(exposed to all weather coditions).
Thanking you.
xavier

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 16:09:56 on 08/Mar/2004
Hello Viraj. We have data on rubberwood as a raw material for making MDF, but nothing specifically on its carbon content. Carbon is present in wood in the form of carbohydrates, ie. combinations of carbon, hydrogen and oxygen which form cellulose and hemicellulose. Hardwoods typically are comprised of 40-45% cellulose and 15-35% hemicellulose, so perhaps these average figures will help you.

From: Viraj (virajrem@hotmail.com) at 22:15:27 on 06/Mar/2004
I want the content of carbon in the rubber wood as a volume base value or else.

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 15:12:19 on 08/Mar/2004
Hi Laura. Hoop pine is a softwood which is native to Australia.

From: Laura (natural_surfy100@hotmail.com) at 21:33:17 on 06/Mar/2004
please give me a name of an australian softwood because i cant find any anywhere thankyou

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 15:10:13 on 08/Mar/2004
Dear Emilia,
To find out the names of the major Australian timber importers, contact Andrew Dunn at the Australian Timber Importers' Federation. His e-mail address is andrewdunn@tabma.com.au.

From: Emilia (sumat@sumat.com) at 12:14:02 on 06/Mar/2004
Dear Harry and Sal,we are the manufaturer of solid wood flooring in China.Could you tell me some importers of flooring in Australia?My Phone is 0086-25-85803666-858.
Best regards
Emilia

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 14:58:58 on 08/Mar/2004
Dear Knut, Your question requires specialised knowledge of plywood manufacture and I think you will need to contact the Plywood Association of Australia. Their e-mail address is folk@plywoodassn.com.au.

From: Knut Klimmek (info@klimmek-henderson.com) at 01:38:05 on 06/Mar/2004
We are about to start work on some items of furniture which will be in Crown cut macassar ebony, and I would welcome some advise regarding adhesives. If using our normal UF resin in our hot press would degreasing with a high flash solvent be sufficient or should we be looking at a different type of adhesive altogether. I have heard of some makers recommending an epoxy based resin for greasy timbers. I look forward to your comments

Knut

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 14:51:40 on 08/Mar/2004
Hello John, and welcome to Timber Talk in Australia. The environmental issues relating to plywood glue revolve around the formaldehyde content of the glue. In 1990 the Timber Research & Development Associaation (TRADA) published Advisory Sheet 57 titled "Getting Formaldehyde into Perspective". If you phone TRADA on 01494 563091 they could send you a copy, or perhaps they have something more recent on the subject.

From: john (03roberts@liverpoolcollege..org.uk) at 21:07:44 on 05/Mar/2004
what are the enviromental effects of plywood glue?

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 14:39:28 on 08/Mar/2004
Hello Betty. I'm afraid I don't know how much paper one tree produces. Perhaps the Australian Paper Industry Council (APIC) could help. You can phone APIC on (02) 6295 7312, or send an e-mail to nicola-farmer@apic.asn.au. Bear in mind that about 28% of newsprint consists of recycled paper. You will find more info about paper by clicking on the tab at the top of our Timber Talk page that says "Briefings". Then select the Fact Sheet on the Pulp and Paper Industry.

From: Betty (markandmegan@westnet.com.au) at 19:57:55 on 05/Mar/2004
Gidday Harry & Sal
I would like to know how many trees are needed to make enough paper for one newspaper?
Thanks for your help
Betty

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 16:23:32 on 05/Mar/2004
Hi Helen. Methylated spirits will dissolve shellac. However, before you remove the finish it might be worth trying a restorative polish. A suitable product is "Marveer". If it's too scratched to restore, then by all means go ahead and remove all the old finish and start again.

From: Helen Wills (willsip@intas.net.au) at 15:05:00 on 05/Mar/2004
1930's table, which is badly scratched. A shelac finish how do I restore. How do I remove the shelac??

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 16:20:56 on 05/Mar/2004
Dear Sulaiman,
Thank you for your message about wood products. We are not able to quote prices, but you can find out more about the timbers available on the Auswood website at www.auswood.com.au. The Australwood website is also worth a vist at www.australwood.com.

From: sulaiman (salman@dowlet.com.sg) at 14:27:37 on 05/Mar/2004
Please send me news and pictures on sawn woods and wood
products.
Also market price for wood products

rgds
sulaiman

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 11:01:24 on 05/Mar/2004
Hi Emily. I take it you are referring to the Forest Manager Game. I just had a quick look and couldn't see any reference to woodchipping, but maybe I missed it. You are quite right, defective logs and other bits and pieces are also used for chips. There is a more detailed explanation of the process under our "Briefings" section. Click on the tab at the top of the page and a list of Fact Sheets will come up, including one titled "Woodchips". Regarding our views on woodchips, we consider that they provide a useful market for material which has little other use. If a forest coupe is being harvested for sawlogs, there is no point in leaving the defective trees standing. Indeed, that would interfere with the regeneration of the coupe. It is also wasteful to burn the defective material, or leave it lying on the forest floor. So, all in all, the woodchip market is a useful one when considered as part of an integrated forest management plan. (PS. When we tried to e-mail you this reply, we received an error message, so maybe there is an error in your e-mail address. Hope you find your answer here!)

From: Emily (frangipani_678@hotmail.com) at 08:54:55 on 05/Mar/2004
After playing your game in timber trek i found you are supplying young children with some false imformation. Im sure you know what your talking about and that you love your forest and wood but you havn't got your facts right. at the end of your game if says that the left over or scrap timber is used for woodchipping, ithought you would be intreested to know that this is a curculated myth and that the logs and tree trunks are what most whoodchips are made of.
Email me back im interested in your views on this subject.

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 10:39:28 on 05/Mar/2004
Hi Michael. The meranti group is made up of various species of Shorea. Swietenia is mahogany.

From: michael (czarcik0@op.pl) at 00:10:35 on 05/Mar/2004
Hi.Could you help me? I have one Question about meranti what's a species? is this swietenia?

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 10:37:22 on 05/Mar/2004
Hello Lawrence. I'm afraid I don't have enough local knowledge to recommend a supplier of slabs in the Blue Mountains. However, your State timber advisory service should be able to help. In NSW it is called the Timber Development Association and you can phone them on 9360 3088.

From: Lawrence Gould (lawrence@six.com.au) at 23:38:28 on 04/Mar/2004
I am renovating a house in the Blue Mountains, Mt. Victoria, and would like to have a few timber slab benchtops. Where can I find timber slabs near here? Also what is the best looking wood to get. Size will be two to three meters long and 600-mm - 800-mm deep. Where do I start?

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 10:23:53 on 05/Mar/2004
Hi Jodie. No, I'm sorry, we don't have plans for a chicken coop. We have a rabbit hutch and an aviary, but they aren't really suitable for chickens. I guess most people just put some posts in the ground and a roof on top and close it in with chicken wire. Maybe your local library has something that would help.

From: Jodie Daley (joda@hawknet.com.au) at 22:46:18 on 04/Mar/2004
Hi there I am interested in building a chicken coup. Do you have any plans or things to consider .
Jodie

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 10:18:20 on 05/Mar/2004
I don't think plywood has too many disadvantages, but one advantage is that you can produce large sheets from thin veneers. You can also combine low quality woods with high quality woods, using the lower cost material for the core veneers where it won't be seen.

From: M ASAF RAZA (masafraza@hotmail.com) at 21:16:59 on 04/Mar/2004
advantages/disadvantages of plywood

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 12:32:15 on 04/Mar/2004
Hello Moses, and welcome to Timber Talk. The eaglewood species which grows in PNG is Gyrinops lecermannii. It is valued for use in religious, ceremonial and medicinal preparations where its resin has a pleasant fragrance. It is sometimes difficult to tell which trees contain the fragrant, dark, resinous wood. CSIRO has carried out some research to help identify which trees contain the resin, and how to conserve the forest. You could obtain more information from the CSIRO Division of Forestry & Forest Products. If you would like to contact the Project Director, his e-mail address is brian.gunn@csiro.au.

From: Moses Hilu (hilu@daltron.com.pg) at 09:49:24 on 04/Mar/2004
would I be able to have some information on eaglewood

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 12:12:37 on 04/Mar/2004
Hi Terry. You could probably burn out a stump in the manner you describe, but unless you live in a rural part of the country I think the neighbours might object! Burning diesel makes thick black smoke and the stump itself could smoulder for some time. If you don't want to grind it out, I think a cleaner method would simply be to cut it off flush with the ground, treat it with a tree poison, and leave it to rot away.

From: terry newton (josuhel5@yahoo.co.uk) at 09:16:47 on 04/Mar/2004
would anyone know about the destruction of large recently cut pine stumps besides ginding .I have heard of a method which involes drilling a fairly large hole in the centre of the stump and filling it with diesel reguarly ,then after a period of time putting a match to it. I would like to know if this works .Regards Terry Newton

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 12:08:50 on 04/Mar/2004
Dear Dr. Silva, Thank you for your message about Percheron. I have a fax to hand that summarises the latest developments and would be happy to send it on to you if you would like to leave another message with a fax number, or your postal address. Otherwise, you can phone Julie Garnsey on +61-2-4342-0884, or fax on +61-2-4342-0662.

From: Dr. Maria Teresa Silva (drtsilva@aol.com) at 04:19:07 on 04/Mar/2004
Over 20 years ago the Pecheron Acceptance Corporation, sold in Mexico some baby timber trees as an investment, finish payments and never heard of the again. In 1990 trying to find out what happened I had contact with them, told me these group of companies were on Receivership, so far again no word, I would realy would like to know where to contact somebody for information.
For any information I will be grateful. Tahnk you for you attention. M. Teresa Silva.

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 12:00:50 on 04/Mar/2004
Hello Lestyn. Durable hardwoods such as spotted gum can be left without a finish and they will grey off to a driftwood colour (assuming the timber is evenly exposed to the elements). I would just be a little cautious about using wide decking. Narrower boards of, say, 85mm width will be less likely to cup and twist. The only downside is that the wood will 'weather' after a period of time, ie. it turns grey, and is likely to develop some hairline cracks. To see what will happen in the long term, have a look at an old jetty or timber bridge in your area. If you want to keep a more 'finished' look, or you want to be able to walk on the deck with bare feet without getting splinters, it might be better to think about maintaining the decking with a decking stain or oil. Regarding the natural stain which leaches out of the wood when it is new, this ceases after a relatively short time, once the rain has washed it all out of the surface fibres.

From: Iestyn Thomas (headlord@bigpond.com) at 00:52:03 on 04/Mar/2004
I am about to lay a queensland spotted gum deck 136x19mm. If I want the wood to "age" and become grey does this mean I should not seal it at all? Are there big down sides to this?
I am also planning to paint the underside white. Do you have any advice on preventing the staining that will occur as the wood bleeds?
Many thanks

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 11:52:01 on 04/Mar/2004
G'day Cyril. Since the timbers you mention grow north of Cairns, I think the best people to advise you are the staff at Timber Queensland. You can contact them on (07) 3254 1989. I thought from your e-mail address that you were based in France. If so, you will need to add 61 for the country code, and drop the zero, so the number becomes 61-7-3254-1989.

From: cyril (cyrilcayla@yahoo.fr) at 17:43:34 on 03/Mar/2004
G’day everybody,

I’m back with some answers and knew questions.
Trying to import some beriba is a problem. Most of the time the quarantaine would drill some holes in it and make it unusable. The price of import is another obstacle.

The beriba or biriba (Eschweilera ovata) is from the family of Lecythidaceae. After some research I found 3 types of trees of the same family growing in Australia that maybe able to fit my criterias of resistance and flexibility:

- planchonia careya (Billy goat Plum tree)
- barringtonia (-,asiatica, racemosa, fusicarpa), I think they are mango trees,
- couroupita guianensis (cannonball tree).

They are all growing in the northen parts of australia (north of a line Broome-Cairns approximatly).

I’m after getting a stick (branch not a processed timber) from each one of them about 2-3 cm thick for approximately 150 cm long.

The goal is to make a musical instrument. The wood has to stay flexible and resistant at the same time after being cut.
Would you know some places (nursery, plantation) where I could get this from?

Thank you very much in advance.

cyril

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 11:37:39 on 04/Mar/2004
Hello Trevor. If large areas of forest are removed by land clearing programs, there may be a loss of habitat for certain species, erosion of the soil (depending on climate and landscape), and so on. Once forested lands are cleared, we lose the ability to harvest timber and other forest products. On the other hand, as developing countries become more developed, some reduction in forest cover is inevitable, simply to provide space for agriculture and the establishment of cities and towns. The challenge is to get the balance right, and minimise the permanent loss of forested areas. Logging is different from land clearing. The timber industry believes that logging has to be responsible. No-one benefits in the long term if timber production is not properly managed. So the forests have to be harvested sustainably. It might help you to understand what this means if you compare forest management with the management of other natural resources such as fisheries. The fishing industry is regulated so that only as many fish are caught as can be replaced by breeding. In the same way, only as many trees are harvested as can be replaced by regrowth. Because large areas of forest are already in national parks and World Heritage Conservation Areas, and because the areas available for logging are managed sustainably, we don't see any need to reduce logging in Australian forests. There is a lot of information about the sustainability of timber production in Australia on the Agriculture, Fisheries & Forestry website at www.affa.gov.au - just click on this hot link, and select "Forestry" from the menu headed "select by subject area". Then go to the General Folder and you will find the topic "Sustainable Forest Management in Australia". There may also be other material on the AFFA website which is relevant to your project.

From: Trevor Bradney-Crowe (staceytrevoe@ihug.com.au) at 17:03:49 on 03/Mar/2004
I need some info all about Logging for my school project please. Things like : to discribe what it is? to explain how it can effect our enviroment? and to explain what we should do to prevent further damaging to our environment. thank you for your time regards from Trevor.

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From: Hardwood Harry (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 11:31:43 on 04/Mar/2004
Hi Susan. Kempas is quite a hard tough timber, but it sometimes contains bits of hard tissue called phloem that crack across the grain. So you would want to be sure it was good quality material, and you might want to specify that it is "free from included phloem". Tongue and groove flooring of any kind has some potential problems out in the weather because the rain can't drain through it. If the timber absorbs too much water it swells. To avoid this problem, it is important not to lay the flooring tightly cramped together. We also recommend laying the boards parallel to the walls, rather than at right-angles to the walls. If the boards are parallel to the walls, the outer boards (which will weather more quickly) can be replaced. If the boards are laid at right-angles to the walls, the ends of all the boards will be subject to weathering, and they will all need to be replaced when affected by weather.

From: susan (susan@loosethreads.com.au) at 15:20:23 on 03/Mar/2004
I am thinking of using kempas for a front verandah on an early victorian cottage, instead of the usual jarrah. (Jarrah is expensive, and the quality does not seem to be as good as it once was.) Will Kempas stand up to the weather? I plan to use tongue and groove boards, and leave it unfinished. The climate is fairly mild, by the coast in Victoria.

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From: Softwood Sal (peter.llewellyn@bigpond.com) at 12:30:19 on 03/Mar/2004
Hi to Tom & Jan in Tennessee! Well, our hardwoods are mostly eucalypts, although we do have other kinds. We don't have so many native softwoods, so our house framing industry is based on plantation-grown radiata pine, which originally came from California and Mexico. Radiata pine isn't much of a tree in its original habitat, but it does well in plantations. I don't know what the opportunities are for a hardwood inspector - we produce mainly softwood in my part of the world. You would do better to contact State Forests of New South Wales. They have a website at www.forest.nsw.gov.au which will tell you more about their activities. Nice to hear from you.

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